ami was a wee girlie pup...had already got her ticket...think anydog that got a thwack in the mouth from a sporran would prob bite it back....it was just in the wrong place at the time...judge was very understanding...she still won

any clumber will work...the working line bred ones are small and lighter boned and footed is all...if i wanted that in a dog i would get another springer..i like the solidness (mind and body), the focus and the steadyness of the non working lines that do work...prefer the look too...the only one i have had that was 3/4 work lines was holliesocks...