Val, Bev riddle for you both

[Izzie]

male ESS, approx 3 yrs old neutured

starts screaming in pain, wont walk, cant get comfy

Xray done, scan done, showed nothing except dehydration of some vertebrae

been in and out of vets for various tests

so far refusing food, instestine working slow, slight anemia

All pain meds not touching the pain, randomly screaming.

tested for Addisons, menigitus, pancreatus

now got sickness and runs, with blood in it

Any ideas  Poor owner is at her wits end

[kizkiznobite]

faecal tests done?

[Izzie]

mmm not sure 

[kizkiznobite]

ok...bloods?

[Val]

Wrong end of the day for much thinking but off the top of my head I would start with the dehydration in the spine that can cause dogs to be in great pain, if this dog has been the given pain killer loved of vets good old Rimadylthat can make some dogs sick and to have loose motions.
I would suggest this dog needs an MRI to see how bad the spine is plus it will show a different angle on the other organs
Val

[Izzie]

as far as I know, yep bloods been done and come back ok, apart from anemia going through some bits now to get some more info

Val, MRI been done, this lad been on tramadol for the pain, no Rym at all

[kizkiznobite]

i would say dog is showing IBD as a symptom...so would be thinking of asking vet to test for canine crohns or the intestinal lymph watsit  sorry can't remember the rest of the word...will go google in a mo...wheatens get it...but so do other breeds...brain shut down..
how long it been going on...has the dog lost weight...?

[Izzie]

been on going since at least 14 Nov

He has lost weight, refusing nearly all food, gone from a greedy guts to not wanting anything

started that it was his spine, pain was in there, then other symptoms kicked in over the last few weeks. Sickness and runs is very recent though

he been at vets and hospital, MRI done but didnt show anything untoward up

[kizkiznobite]

INTESTINAL LYMPHANGIECTASIA

one of the obvious symptons is fatty poo...

but unless the do faecal test they cannot rule out parasite...

needs more tests and needs a biop me thinks...

[Izzie]

bloods have been done for all symptoms to rule them out

[kizkiznobite]

I L diagnoses is not done by bloods...it done by biop...

[Izzie]

waiting on owner to get back to me about fecal testing and asked her about that.

Its the spine that seems to be the main issue, as he is ok one minute, then suddenly starts screaming his head off the next

the vets put him on diazipan to calm him down

[kizkiznobite]

yep...sure could be the spine but IBD would also cause intermitant pain...what was the result of the spine scan?

[Izzie]

Xray done, scan done, showed nothing except dehydration of some vertebrae

[kizkiznobite]

then the scan would have shown the disc bulging...herniating...