yes Suz, first owner promised breeder he would take him to puppy classes, socialise him, never leave him on his own, etc - his parents back him up
11 months later breeder gets an email from the parents....owner has given them the dog, he been leaving him for long hours, didnt take to classes, didnt do any socialising with him. he was neutured at 10 months because he was humping the other dogs, fed on crap, resource gaurding, no recall, pulled on lead, etc
I went with breeder to pick him up and he came to stay with me for a few days, he counter surfed within minutes of being here, a full loaf of bread, managed to swop for high value treats, he was very thin and looked like a female clumber- ther3e are some pics somewhere as I had to put Livs in a bandana as we couldnt tell the difference between them.
he was here for a few days, then went to Bev for rehab...and never left