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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2006, 10:17:57 PM »
onlt just spotted this!  ::) sorry kiz!

Ok, i am a little confused!..........................What exactly is free shaping? (sorry  :-[ )


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2006, 10:20:32 PM »
it is a training method where the dogs thinks it has taught itself a behaviour - loads on here tyep freeshaping in the search box

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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2006, 10:24:42 PM »
ok will have a snoop, thanks!
So, ill have to start at the beginning to do the snoozy?


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2006, 10:33:24 PM »
she will have to understand how to free shape - you too  ;)
look at the other posts and come back with q's

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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #34 on: November 04, 2006, 01:40:08 PM »
Well read through posts!! something cant be working upstairs because i dont get any of it, from start to finish!  ::)


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #35 on: November 04, 2006, 02:44:46 PM »
put a toy on the floor - hold treat in fingers so she can see it

dont speak at all - when she looks at the toy - click and treat - keep doing this until she looks at the toy everytime - then stop clicking for looking and wait until she touches it with her nose or paw - the click and reward that lots then stop again until it just nose she is touching with - when she does it everytime for 20 times say nose as she touches with nose - keep going - eventually you will be able to say nose and she will touch an object with it

when she got this - then put a bed on the floor and do the same until she goes and lies on it - ok with me? did you watch the vid with sadie minpin?

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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #36 on: November 04, 2006, 02:49:09 PM »
ahh i see, yes i watched the vids, thanks Kiz!! Will start this tonight when the kids are in bed!

think i was reading too much into it!!  ::)


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #37 on: November 15, 2006, 02:44:16 PM »
hmmm been doing this with milly (nose)  she is getting there, the only thing is though, when you tell her nose, she looks at you stupid for a few minutes and then lays down as though im telling her the 'leave' although i dont use the 'leave' voice tone. then after a few times of telling her nose she touches with her nose then sods off playing with the toy!!

Whats going wrong, should she be touching with her nose then sitting back? ( cos she aint doing that)  :-\
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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #38 on: November 15, 2006, 03:30:10 PM »
you have verbal cued too fast - tape over mouth - get it fluent before adding a cue  ;D

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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #39 on: November 15, 2006, 03:31:11 PM »
you have verbal cued too fast - tape over mouth - get it fluent before adding a cue  ;D

ahh ok!! thanks will go again, its hard staying quiet for that long!  ;D


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #40 on: November 15, 2006, 09:09:29 PM »
Nacho loves doing this.... skips when he sees treat box and clicker....   ;D
makes him sooooooooooo tired.... although maybe we should rename Bluebell  - freeshaper ?  ???  ;D

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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #41 on: November 24, 2006, 03:22:22 PM »
hmm, have been working on this, yet again, and managed to keep  :-X (almost  ;D )

Everytime we say nose to something, she looks at us then touches the object with her nose then site back and looks at me??? better than before i guess, is this what ment to happen??


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #42 on: November 24, 2006, 03:48:39 PM »
 ;D

now do it with another action.   Nacho can do touch, lick, - my fav ones.  I have a treat in hand and say touch - he touches with nose, I say lick, he licks, I say - take it - he takes it.  He is now so fluent I mix it up. 

So now try it with another object with another part of body  ??? 

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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #43 on: November 24, 2006, 03:52:35 PM »
ooooooooo think this gunna be hard lol! ok so, knowing milly she is going to wonder why when i start it all again that im not rewarding the nose? so obviously take it right back to the beginning? and then wait til she touches with something different??

She wont forget nose though will she?


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Re: Free Shaping Snoozy
« Reply #44 on: November 24, 2006, 03:58:07 PM »
Start with the nose to give her confidence.  Say nose and reward then do something else... Decide before you start what the behaviour is going to be.

She may get frustrated and bark  Nacho does.  Do close recall (back of hand - dont know if you do this one) Or even nose just to get her focussed again and lose frustration.  Most of all  :-X. be patient, in dogs time not yours...  ;)  Don't over do it or she will see it as negative and always finish on positive note....  ;D

This is fun Nacho loves it...