a lesson in learning

[kizkiznobite]

you got it - then you have to start all over again at a higher criteria haha - like rabbit dummies - real ducks on water

[parker]

Will the criterias be the same or are they different for this work?

[kizkiznobite]

same 1,2,3 - 4 tends to be gundog classes which are usually held out of doors with all high drive dogs - if you go down that route then you work up the classes to trials and shooting so each has it's own criteria - as in noisy dummy launchers etc - criteria 5 is huge - as lastpost - rabbits but duck on the water - ducks but game on land etc then up to 5ab then 5abc etc - it starts in the open with a couple of dogs and fun shoots for example with stuff then added up to the real thing - 40 or more guns - beaters, pickers up, loads of dogs sitting at peg, loads of dog working - loads of noise and game all over the place, blood smells, hyper people arguing - very intense

[Mudgie]

So my going to the fridge is the "bridge"  He runs to the crate as he has no control over this as it is totally automatic - behaviour is now programmed into brain.    No need for training.  The training has been that every time I go to the fridge and get the kong we go to crate and he gets kong when in down position.  Now he longer thinks about it - automatic response.  Am I getting this??   

[kizkiznobite]

the sheets i sent you - ucs to ucr etc write it out like that - and i will go thro it with you

[Mudgie]

Okay

Unconditioned stimulus Fridge Door = Unconditioned response = pleasure
Conditioned  and unconditioned stimulus fridge door and kong  = unconditioned response = pleasure
conditioned and unconditioned stimulus fridge door + kong + crate = unconditioned response = pleasure
conditioned and unconditioned stimulus down = conditioned response = pleasure
So conditioned stimulus = fridge door/kong/crate/down = pleasure

No doubt I have made it too complicated.

He knows the sequence equates to pleasure so he goes through the sequence.... Fridge door, sees kong, goes to crate, lies down = pleasure.   

[kizkiznobite]

pretty good  - now start at the very begining

[Mudgie]

In suits - going to work - he knows that means routine of doggie walkie etc.  Prior to that kong - all routine.... 

Same at night tv off, nacho wee wee, into bed, night night. light off...  see you in the morning.........  Same dialect everynight.

Like this morning OH does morning walk, I let him into garden for wee, he came up stairs and waiting on OH getting ready before he came down stairs.  Everyone else downstairs he waits on OH and then walks to heel downstairs to front door to go...  He is so clever.  I never really think about it.  It is just our routine what he is conditioned now to do..........  Bev sometimes you just turn the light switch on... 

[Mudgie]

This has really got me thinking.

Oven timer going off = conditioned response = salivates

[kizkiznobite]

very pavlovian

think - do it - email it me