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Title: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Admin on May 24, 2005, 11:51:00 AM
I get many e-mails asking about becoming a dog trainer, where to be taught, what qualifications and where to get insurance to do such a thing.  I have my sections on finding a pup/dog and Poodle cross breeds, but do not have anything I can really put here.

If you would like to give your advice about becoming a dog trainer here I will collate it together and hopefully be able to help others.

Cheers
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: justpetdogs on May 25, 2005, 12:08:13 PM
First, train your dog.

Second, get loads of experience training and handling other breeds, types & ages of dog

Third, do the Foundation Degree in Canine Behaviour & Training at Bishop Burton College  ;D (me...plugging...never! ;))

Marion
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Admin on May 25, 2005, 12:11:11 PM
I am still stuck on the first one, hence I find it hard to reply to these enquiries.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on May 25, 2005, 12:50:20 PM
Aww - bless u !

I reccommend doing some reading - Gwen Bailey  & John Fisher for starters and then trying the techniques out on your dog.  Go along to as many dog clubs as you can find (without your dog) and see what methods you like / agree with / etc... 

Find a good club (easier said than done 4 me !!) and that will help alot.

Go to dog shows, volunteer to walk rescue dogs, erm... help at a grooming place ... get out there and experience dogs :)  all of them !!!!!  :D

Also .. get on the best course you can with the best people in your field.

Claire :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: waggi on May 25, 2005, 03:50:23 PM
get experience of all sorts of dogs BIG little (and in the middle) hairy and not so hairy brown black white even green (ok its a white dog with grass stains)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: approbatis on May 28, 2005, 06:29:11 PM
HI ADMIN
HAVE YOU NOT HEARD OF
A.D.T.B
PRICIPLE JENNI WATSON
IF YOU LOOK ON MY SITE HAPPY HOUNDS
YOU WILL FIND THE LINK TO THE ACADEMY OF DOG TRAINING AND BEHAVIOUR
THIS IS A GREAT SITE AND COURSE

I HAVE JUST BECOME A GOLD LEVEL INSTRUCTOR
FOR
PET DOG OBEDIENCE TRAINING
MY SITE IS

http://beehive.thisishull.co.uk/happyhounds/

hope this helps
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on May 28, 2005, 06:58:45 PM
Hiya,

I just wanted to say I'd not heard of them - only APDT and APDC.  I've looked at your site appro, and it looks all nice kind methods and stuff - definately something i'd reccommend a "newbie" looking into alongside the first 2 i mention.

Also, I think even seeing the different breeds in the flesh helps you appreciate them, see if you can get to some dog shows with breed classes and just experience the look of different dogs.  If you love dogs, it should be a nice day too !

Lastly, definately train your own dog :)  I found out recently that the person taking a training class I attended (and whose dog is obedient) has simply trained obedience and the dog is actually no good with other dogs etc...  along with other issues, its put me off.  I dont like dogs to be puppets - i like some dog left in them if you get me ?

Claire :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kittykatt on July 27, 2005, 10:14:07 AM
great info, I am looking into this as well.. but rather would like to be mainly for one breed.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on July 27, 2005, 10:40:07 AM
Hi,

Thats OK - would it be GSD's ?  if so there are a few trainers I know who only work with GSD and BSD dogs.  There's still a good variety in the breed, you can go along to breed classes and have a look at Am / Ger / UK lines and how they differ.  GilliananHarry sent me something recently about them i'll dig it out for you as its really interesting reading.

Claire x

here we are  http://www.dogstuff.info/gsd_balance.html

personally - i prefer the "herding look" with a straighter topline than the slanty show thing :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kittykatt on July 27, 2005, 11:15:42 AM
Yes it would be GSD, I have personally experience about 15 years of them, but those have been in Sweden.
I would direct me to the UK lines though as I live there.

Thank you for the link and I will have a read :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on July 27, 2005, 11:48:17 AM
Hiya,

I'm in the UK aswell :)

We have UK lines obviously, but they are inter-bred with German and US lines so you'll probably see a mixture over here.

The UK seem to have the awful problem that dogs with bad hips are being bred in as a result of non-tested / non-scored matings so be prepared for your fair share of HD/ED dogs. 

As a breed I find them gentle and sensitive but alot of people, even dog owners fear them so they can struggle in general classes because they pick up the worries and fears of other owners who dont understand the breed.

Good on you for working with the breed - in the UK they have alot of predudice (sp?) along with rotties and dobies.  People look, see them breed and think they'll bite me.

Claire.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Tjhoe on July 27, 2005, 12:41:19 PM
Yes I can second that Claire! The amount of people who cross the road when they see Barney is unbelievable!

We can clear a path in seconds  ;D
Title: A quick question?
Post by: azzures26 on August 02, 2005, 04:07:04 PM
I own a 2yo hybrid (65% arctic wolf, 35% malamute), and I have been trying to search online for information on hybrids as family dogs. So far all I've managed to find is a bunch of websites yelling at people like me for owning a hybrid in the first place, lol. According to them, hybrids make horrible pets, even dangerous ones. Which couldnt be further from the truth about my dog. He is a great family dog, and treats my 2 kids, all kids, as if they were his. Then again, he is also a house dog, and shivers outside if the temp drops under 60, lol.
I am trying to find an informational site on dealing with training and health maintainence of a hybrid. I learned pretty quickly that techniques used on a dog absolutely do not work on my dog. If anyone knows of any websites, or even has knowledge of living with and training such an independent and different thinking dog, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx!
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on August 02, 2005, 04:11:01 PM
i just wanna say - wow can we see a pic :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kittykatt on August 05, 2005, 09:08:21 AM
Hiya,

I'm in the UK aswell :)

We have UK lines obviously, but they are inter-bred with German and US lines so you'll probably see a mixture over here.

The UK seem to have the awful problem that dogs with bad hips are being bred in as a result of non-tested / non-scored matings so be prepared for your fair share of HD/ED dogs. 

As a breed I find them gentle and sensitive but alot of people, even dog owners fear them so they can struggle in general classes because they pick up the worries and fears of other owners who dont understand the breed.

Good on you for working with the breed - in the UK they have alot of predudice (sp?) along with rotties and dobies.  People look, see them breed and think they'll bite me.

Claire.


Thank you claire.
I am looking into more of this.. I have thought about (when having a house off course LMAO) to import a GSD from Sweden, maybe not for Show, but for tracking.
But still thinking about it.
I would never ever breed a GSD if there were a sign of bad HD/ED in them, or if the temp was not up to standard.
And to be honest i dont think I would breed at all, but never say never lol.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on August 05, 2005, 09:26:58 AM
Hi KK,

close to me there are 2 GSD only classes, is there any in your area you could go and compare those with a normal mixed class ?

just a thought !!

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kittykatt on August 05, 2005, 09:42:53 AM
Thansk, I am not sure I will have a look.. to be honest, I am not sure what to look for as there are not the many GSD owner what I have seen of here in London.
I think I have seen 2 in 7 years in the parks... ::) sigh lol...

ANd you can call me jess if you like ;)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on August 05, 2005, 09:45:16 AM
Thanks Jess :)

What a shame you dont see more :(  There are certainly a few round here :)  (about 100miles north of london)

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Leanne on October 18, 2005, 10:57:58 AM
hi im new on here. i need sum advise. i really want to become a dog trainner but dnt av a clue how to go about it.i av been to a animal college but did jus the basics.i live in the west midlands and cant fint any where that learns you dog trainning. i hope there is someone out there who can help.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: GilliananHarry on October 18, 2005, 12:05:44 PM
You cannot become a dog trainer just by going on a course & then start training other people's dogs or other people to train their dogs(although some people seem to think so)

You really do need to have owned a dog & trained it.

If you live in the midlands there are lots of dog training cubs who train their members to become dog trainers, but if you are looking to become a professinal dog trainer you have as others have written in this thread to gets lots of experience of dogs)

M friend who has been a professional dog trainer for years(she trains other peoples dogs & rescue dogs etc)says the dog training is easy, it's training people to train their own dogs that is hard. You need to be able teach people if this is what you want
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: suebee on October 24, 2005, 08:16:59 PM
Dog training, the all evasive term could mean anything but quite a lucrative selling item.There is no qualifications for 'dog training' or 'behaviourist', sure you can tie in to someones (or organisation or groupss) methods, but train for what? toilet train? stop digging the garden? recall?
Al the organisations such APDT are are simply groups of private individuals working as a commercial co-op type group, paying an annual contrinbution to a central fund which pays for one web site and they have most of their names on it, it is free enterprise private commercial training, but, there are no recognitions of any formal nature, in any case training techniques varie from individual to the other.
In short anyone thinking of buying some kind of course needs to understand that in dog training there is no such thing as a recognised qualification although one group may recognise another grpoup on a purely private basis, but, that means nothing.
Be very very carefull of buying any course for the above reasons, most exagerate or make entirely false claims, such as COAPE, that claims to be 'accredited' by National Open College Network. The COAPE course is not recognised by them at all, they are not even on its list.
Thats only one example BUT people pay good money for such mirepresentations to loads of other study courses which in reallity amount to nothing except if you, the individual, want to recognise it/them for reasons of your own then fine, but thats as far as it goes.
The moral is, if anyone is going to spend time and money on any course, be damned carefull, it is a selling point for pet owner obedience cause they have been sold the idea there is/are some kind of qualifications, but now they are becomiming aware they mean nothing and very soon the market for these training services will be gone, good whilst it lasted though.
You dont need any course to put letters after your name, PDTP is good enough, I just made it up, it stands for Pet Dog Training Proffesional and it means just as much for a qualification to work as anything going and unlike COAPE, it costs nothing, means as much and has as much legality as anything else.

Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on October 24, 2005, 08:33:25 PM
Hi,

I agree 1000000000% with Gill !!  A great deal of dog training is getting the owner to buy into the process and start understanding their dog a little better.

I also agree with suebee in that there are those who abuse the unregulated world of dog training !  I think it is worth mentioning that OCN *do* accredit some courses at level 1 and 3 such as those run by Sheila Harper www.qanuk.com however these are expensive (around £1500) and although they are excellent really what they advocate above all else is experience training your own dog ... Also its worth mentioning that groups such as APDT, APBC and numerous other TLA's (!!) do require that members subscribe to a minimum code of practice - as with anything there are those who use and those who abuse.  There are also private franchises such as the notable "barkbusters" who charge a huge ££££ to buy into their brand (which IMHO is awful - sorry BB fans !!)

The way into dog training which will gain you most respect and peer standing would be to train your own dog (or someone you know - a friend or family member maybe) many of the training concepts (discs, clickers etc..) have decent descriptions for free on the internet.  Also visit dog clubs in your area if you can and find one which has a training style you are comfortable with - a local club here (East Mids) actually run a training course to allow you to take their group courses, they are desperate for decent trainers so that is another possible route progressing from helping a club trainer to running / assisting with classes ...

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: suebee on October 24, 2005, 09:12:50 PM
Yea your right piglet, I think a good start in terms of words be for them all to state exactly what they mean by 'training', it sort of implies that someone selling a service can train any dog for any purpose, preposterous there are hundreds of different training goals for hundreds of different type dogs.
The average pet owner wants a recall and little more but I dont remember seeing anyone advertising 'obedience trainer' and pet owners might well be under the impression that the person is capable of training them to train whatever dog they bring along to recall at all times, "I am a trainer" is a combination of meaning nothing and everthing, obedience trainer, yes that means something.
There are lots of different ideas and methods 'obedience trainers' prefer to use themselves and no reason not state "I specialise in - this or that or tother" because any training method(s) MUST be tailored for that owner dog combination, not just the dog.
Most 'trainers' simply use one inflexible method for all and everything which comes along instead of telling someone truthfully, "Sorry I dont think my style is suitable for your needs", "if you want to know why I will explain" and so on, but no, if someone comes along they take them on no matter how unsuitable the combination or owner/dog is for that 'trainer and their prefered method(s).
But these courses just misrepresent themselves in order to sell their course, I havent actualy heard of one going as far as COAPE by making such high level false statement but no doubt if I looked around more there would be others.
Credit where credit is due, the salses patter is excellent, buisiness ideas good but people are getting fed up of it cause the results dont balance.


Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on October 25, 2005, 10:05:08 AM
Hi,

I think for someone who wants to help people and their dogs, is best going along to a few dog clubs of different sorts covering obedience, flyball, agility, trialing (if you can), ringcraft, heelwork to music and to start with just observing a range of instructors.  Maybe one club will run KCGC, another will teach "APDT approved methods", but one thing is for sure - its the best way to experience the diversity of methods that you can use with a dog.  Maybe have a look into alternative approaches like t-touch aswell - the more tools that are in your "toolkit" the more rounded and confident you'll feel.

If you have your own dog, great try out some basic obedience as suebee says majority of pet owners just want their dog to walk nice on a lead, sit, stay, down, recall, and be OK around food / dogs / people.  Details of how to do these basic things are posted all over dogboard for free !! :)

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denny on October 25, 2005, 10:28:25 AM
You could try the BAGSD who have branches in the London area & are a single breed association & run training courses for trainers

http://www.bagsd.com/page2.html (http://www.bagsd.com/page2.html)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on October 25, 2005, 10:40:51 AM
ooh yes - i forgot single breed clubs, they are really worth watching too :)  round here there is a vast difference in the GSD clubs to the retriever clubs to the "mixed" clubs.

its not that one is worse / better - the approaches are just different because each trainer is different !

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Brenda Spencer on November 02, 2005, 08:42:15 AM
Hiya,

I just wanted to say I'd not heard of them - only APDT and APDC.  I've looked at your site appro, and it looks all nice kind methods and stuff - definately something i'd reccommend a "newbie" looking into alongside the first 2 i mention.

Also, I think even seeing the different breeds in the flesh helps you appreciate them, see if you can get to some dog shows with breed classes and just experience the look of different dogs.  If you love dogs, it should be a nice day too !

Lastly, definately train your own dog :)  I found out recently that the person taking a training class I attended (and whose dog is obedient) has simply trained obedience and the dog is actually no good with other dogs etc...  along with other issues, its put me off.  I dont like dogs to be puppets - i like some dog left in them if you get me ?

Claire :)



Who ain't heard of Academy of Dog Training and Behaviour?  ???  The brainchild of Jennii Watson, one of the most respected competitors/obedience trainers in the UK and elsewhere. She's held obedience courses all over the UK. Has qualified for Crufts obedience with several dogs over the years. She now runs on-line courses for would-be dog trainers (and they ain't easy, believe me cos, after almost 30 years competing and judging in obedience, I have decided to take the courses) and ADTB fully qualified trainers become KC affiliated. ADTB members are in the Guinness Book of Records for the greatest number of dogs ever to take part in a sponsored "stay" for the "Make a Wish" foundation when members raised over £5,000..  ;D

website :  http://www.dogtraining-online.co.uk/


 
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on November 02, 2005, 12:28:02 PM
me ... i hadnt heard of them :)

probably because i cant stand trad ob training.  ;)  its not everyones cuppa and i feel it takes the dog out of your dog more than any other "doggie activity" does.

my dog can sit, stay, recall and down because its the law to control them in public but I will never do ob work with him because i just hate it *shudder*.

so - i wouldnt have heard of her from ob, and last time i looked my muttley couldnt qualify for crufts even if i wanted him to so i wouldnt have heard of her from there either ...  for dog training i love Turid Rugaas among others ... thats just me :)

Claire x  :)

Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denny on November 02, 2005, 05:26:01 PM
Jenni's methods just aren't aimed at Obedience dogs & she is a motivational trainer well know to the best trainers in th UK. She's now living in Spain but the academy goes on

Your dog could get to Crufts other Cross Breeds have won the Crufts Obedience championships & unlike other countries the UK Kennnel Club "Activities" are open to any breed or Cross Breed

Turid like many others is also a motivational traner, IMHO motivational Dog Trainers are the best
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on November 02, 2005, 05:37:23 PM
aah - i was thinking of the showing at crufts (which i thought - but dont know 4 sure) was open to pedigree, qualifying dogs.

i did know flyball was open as several northamptonshire teams compete - usually against each other, in the final stages !!

Claire :)

p.s. i'm not a trainer - just a pet dog owner of an almost 7yr old x-breed rescue dog (who does do fun agility and hoping to do some fun flyball when i get this bumpy outta my tummy so i can run about again without looking like a weeble !!) who i am sure would hate too many "doggie activites" as he loves his basket far too much !!! ... and general font of boring but sometimes useful dog knowledge :)  i just hadnt heard of her - thats all :)  surely i cant be alone ???  i am off to look for her on google see what goodies i can find :) 
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denny on November 02, 2005, 06:04:05 PM
 ;D Have look  http://www.dogtraining-online.co.uk/about.html (http://www.dogtraining-online.co.uk/about.html) here  ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Brenda Spencer on November 04, 2005, 06:55:52 AM
;D Have look  [url]http://www.dogtraining-online.co.uk/about.html[/url] ([url]http://www.dogtraining-online.co.uk/about.html[/url]) here  ;D



Having been "in" obedience for 30 years, competing, judging, training (was secretary and show secretary of one of the local KC registered DT Clubs here in Stoke-on-Trent in Staffordshire [there isn't one now] and ran several very successful obedience show), I have been a member of the ADTB for a while and am now the Treasurer. I have known Jenni for a long time, have judged her in obedience and have great respect for her and her methods. I am also undergoing the 6 modules of the on-line course to become a KC accredited trainer. Why? I have no idea. Why does anybody climb Everest? But Jenni does use a common sense approach to her training. You don't have to compete in obedience to undertake her courses. If you want to further your knowledge of dogs, then her courses are very helpful. You don't have to take them all if you don't want to.

I also have 2 Border Collies qualified for Crufts breed for life (one is a champion).
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on November 04, 2005, 10:13:27 AM
mmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm border collies - my favourite :)

i just wanted to say that i was NOT slating her or her methods in any way and from what I have read they look excellent and well worth looking into further.

i was just saying its my preference not to compete in ob because i think it takes the "dog" out of your dog and thats probably why i hadnt heard of her.  this is just my personal opinion and in no way bears a reflection to any teaching method however kind or otherwise (although obviously dont use the otherwise methods - they are mean !!).

claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: donna_hether on March 21, 2006, 08:59:50 AM
i am thinking of applying for bishop burton in the new year. There are two courses i am interested in the full time bsc hons in applied animal behaviour and training or part time foundation degree in dog training and behaviour. Does anyone know whether you have to already be working with dogs when you do the part time one? Thanks
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on March 21, 2006, 09:04:51 AM
Hi,

I think "justpetdogs" is from BB - you could PM her and I am sure she'll know :)

I looked at going 10 years ago now and was seriously tempted but it was too far from mommy and daddy at the time but I was impressed with it then and i am sure its got better :)

Good Luck !!

I decided to do a psychology degree first as 99% of dog training is actually human training :) :) :)

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: justpetdogs on March 21, 2006, 02:12:04 PM
Hi Donna

Claire's right...I am from BB.

No, you don't necessarily need to already be working with dogs to do the canine course although some past/current experience is useful...but that's something we can discuss if you decide to apply.  You do, however, need to have a dog to work with during the course since there is strong emphasis on practical, hands-on skills as well as understanding the theory.

If you want more info, pm or email me.  I can give you the contact details for the BSc AABT too if you're interested.

Marion
Title: Re: A quick question?
Post by: muckypup on March 27, 2006, 09:01:59 PM
I own a 2yo hybrid (65% arctic wolf, 35% malamute), and I have been trying to search online for information on hybrids as family dogs. So far all I've managed to find is a bunch of websites yelling at people like me for owning a hybrid in the first place, lol. According to them, hybrids make horrible pets, even dangerous ones. Which couldnt be further from the truth about my dog. He is a great family dog, and treats my 2 kids, all kids, as if they were his. Then again, he is also a house dog, and shivers outside if the temp drops under 60, lol.
I am trying to find an informational site on dealing with training and health maintainence of a hybrid. I learned pretty quickly that techniques used on a dog absolutely do not work on my dog. If anyone knows of any websites, or even has knowledge of living with and training such an independent and different thinking dog, it would be greatly appreciated.
Thanx!

I may be being reaaaaaaaaaaaally thick here, but how can a dog be 65% and 35% ????

Jade
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: chriswantsitnow on June 06, 2006, 09:58:06 PM
 :) Having just joined this site, I don't want to upset anyone!
 ;) I have lived my life surrounded by dogs from the day I was born - sheep dogs, cattle dogs, gun dogs, fox hounds, GSD's, pet collies, mongrels - true Heinz 57's! spaniels ( many varieties) and I could go on - but don't want to bore you! I just want to say - "I have not met a dog yet that can't be trained - the owners - is a different matter! Obviously you need a good understanding of dogs etc etc - but you need to be able to relay all you know to humanoids- that's the hard part!!!
Chris
X
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Joly on June 06, 2006, 09:59:03 PM
roflol - so true!!!  :D  :D

oh and hello and welcome!!  ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on June 06, 2006, 10:00:30 PM
Hello and welcome  ;D

Have to agree with you there :D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Joly on June 06, 2006, 10:03:48 PM
oh and what dog/s do you have now???  ;) ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on June 06, 2006, 10:05:25 PM
yes please do tell and we love pics if you have any to share :D :D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Joly on June 06, 2006, 10:06:12 PM
lmao i knew that was coming - i was gonna ask but thought id let you do it!!  :-*
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on June 06, 2006, 10:06:56 PM
hi and welcome from me and the clumsey's :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: chriswantsitnow on June 06, 2006, 11:28:23 PM
 ;) Thanks for making me feel so welcome!
Chris
X
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Joly on June 06, 2006, 11:30:08 PM
aww thats alright - hope to see you back again soon!!
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on June 06, 2006, 11:34:08 PM
Thats fine we love new members :-*
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on June 08, 2006, 11:56:58 AM
Hi and welcome !

that is SO SO SO true LOL !!!!!

Claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on June 08, 2006, 02:27:40 PM
Chris are you a trainer then ???
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: sherbychez on June 21, 2006, 08:22:26 AM
hello all, im Cheryl from the UK.I am a dog trainer (HUMAN TRAINER)LOL xx ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on June 21, 2006, 02:48:56 PM
Hello Cheryl and welcome to the forum ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Joly on June 21, 2006, 05:24:45 PM
hello and welcome cheryl! ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on June 29, 2006, 10:06:32 AM
so true !!!!!!

:)

claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: alex#1 on September 03, 2006, 12:38:09 AM
obidence class
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on September 03, 2006, 10:51:58 AM
 ??? what about it?
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: piglet on September 03, 2006, 11:12:14 AM
dunno - maybe theres something about it on petsmo

;)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: tjhoe68 on September 03, 2006, 02:41:09 PM
Haha Claire  :D :D :D

Hi and welcome Cheryl  ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: leoti on December 01, 2006, 06:17:10 PM
having just joined this forum and reading this section on becoming a dog trainer i must say i have to agree with brenda spencer i am doing the ADTB course and am totaly enjoying myself there is no pressure to finish and you do it in your own time :) :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: LurcherGirl on December 20, 2006, 10:32:34 AM
First, train your dog.

Second, get loads of experience training and handling other breeds, types & ages of dog

Third, do the Foundation Degree in Canine Behaviour & Training at Bishop Burton College  ;D (me...plugging...never! ;))

Marion

I think the easiest way to get into dog training is by joining a training club of sorts where you can train your dog and perhaps eventually become a class assistant. Then do the Bishop Burton Foundation Degree...  ;D

Vera
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: LurcherGirl on December 20, 2006, 10:38:53 AM
me ... i hadnt heard of them :)

probably because i cant stand trad ob training.  ;)  its not everyones cuppa and i feel it takes the dog out of your dog more than any other "doggie activity" does.

my dog can sit, stay, recall and down because its the law to control them in public but I will never do ob work with him because i just hate it *shudder*.

so - i wouldnt have heard of her from ob, and last time i looked my muttley couldnt qualify for crufts even if i wanted him to so i wouldnt have heard of her from there either ...  for dog training i love Turid Rugaas among others ... thats just me :)

Claire x  :)



Competitive obedience training doesn't have to be like this. I do obedience with my two lurchers and believe me, they are all dog in everyday life! They are clicker trained and enjoy doing obedience... it is not a chore and it is nothing to do with "killing" the dog in them!  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on December 20, 2006, 12:11:03 PM
hi and welcome from me and the clumsey's  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: LurcherGirl on December 20, 2006, 01:09:38 PM
hi and welcome from me and the clumsey's  :)

Hi, sorry for not introducing myself...  ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 08, 2007, 11:28:26 AM
Hi,
Are the ADTB courses any good? Do they give various methods of training, or just one? If just one, what method is it? (clicker, positive/negative reinforcement etc etc) I'm asking because I'd love to do an online training course. Thanks, Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 09, 2007, 01:10:26 PM
Anyone care to comment? Pleeeasssee?  ;D Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on January 09, 2007, 03:17:24 PM
If your going to do an online one that will just be the start and you can use that to maybe get on a course in uni. Gracie and Donna are both doing a 4 year long degree course at uni I think maybe they can let you know more, I am going to be starting an online one just for a inside view while i am at home but something always pops up  ::) :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on January 09, 2007, 03:21:13 PM
This is what Gracie is doing  ;)

http://www.bishopb-college.ac.uk/index.php?module=courses&courseId=8
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 09, 2007, 04:20:01 PM
they are only good if there is active practical guided training with dogs with a trainer for trainer

non directed learning is fine but the practical is a must too
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 09, 2007, 04:42:35 PM
and... i am mentoring both gracie and donna....interesting the different questions and the different 'i am stuck' points  ;D quite fascinating really  :)

it's ok marion - guiding not telling  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 09, 2007, 04:43:44 PM
As I live in Saudi for most of the year I can only do online  :( and would like to know if anyone knows the best ones to do. Is Jenni Watson's course(s) ok? Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 09, 2007, 04:57:41 PM
the problem is that working with dogs - as in training and remodifying needs practical application while your own skills are devolping and it is unfair to do this with client dogs or mate's dogs that have problems etc in case more damage is done - it does not work either by using your own dogs as these are a known quantity - any course that does not require case studies or offers practical training for trainer options is too weak and many trainer/behaviourists are out there that have done these types of courses - i know - i often pick up the results - there just has to be practical and this is where the membership bodies fall down - yeah you can learn on line how to train in a cue as a generic but when you meet that first dog that wants to take a chunk out of your backside then what - what you do in that moment at that time and in that space and at that criteria can result in a solution or a one way trip to the vets

sorry if this sounds heavy but i feel very strongly about these courses
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on January 09, 2007, 05:06:19 PM
I would definatly agree with kiz, if you want to learn how to become a dog trainer than you need to have the learning of the practical part. It is all well and good mentally learning what to do but that is nothing when you are faced with putting it into practice ::) you need to learn both at the same time on a course that teaches everything, online courses can not do this, it is unfair on the future dogs that these 'trainers' are faced with. :( You wouldnt do an online course on how become a mechanic and not go under the hood to have a look around and learn from a experienced mecahnic would you. ;)

In my case I ama stay at home mum who home educates my three kids so why do they have all the fun :D i will only do this online course as a learning insight before i decide (and get the time) to venture into the proper world of learning how to become a trainer :)

Many people on this board have had the pleasure of kiz's help and expertise some have the added bonus of getting activities to work through but that does not mean we know everything about training and can then become a trainer.  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 09, 2007, 05:12:51 PM
Yes but surely its better than nothing? I have no other choice. I don't really want to become a trainer, (i.e. get paid for it) but I have a great deal of experience training dogs in the past and wondered if Jenni's course would give me another view to dog training. At the moment I teach a basic obedience class - because there's me, or there's no-one. I just wondered if anyone had any ideas, good or bad, about Jennies course. Hope thats ok.  :) Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Komtessa on January 09, 2007, 05:14:40 PM
It may be worth contacting colleges to see if you can do a "correspondence" course with the practical assessments being carried out by video or something.

If you don't ask - the colleges would maybe know of alternatives also.  ;D

Good luck.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 09, 2007, 05:30:22 PM
with your basic classes that you do now - what operant methods do you use? and how do you assess the puppies that are turning classical to operant?

i can offer you guides and science of learning info and training record procedures etc and will do so willingly but you do need the dogs to apply it all to
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on January 09, 2007, 05:31:07 PM
if there is no one else for these others to learn from then why not be the best you can be and learn it all ;)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 09, 2007, 07:03:49 PM
with your basic classes that you do now - what operant methods do you use? and how do you assess the puppies that are turning classical to operant?
I don't even know what that means lol - I do old fashioned heelwork training, basic sits, down, stand stays, recall - things like that. There is absolutely nothing else available here. We don't have any problem dogs in the class so I guess I've been lucky so far. Thats why I want to learn more.

i can offer you guides and science of learning info and training record procedures etc and will do so willingly but you do need the dogs to apply it all to
That sounds fab! Thank you!  ;D

if there is no one else for these others to learn from then why not be the best you can be and learn it all ;)
My sentiments exactly!  ;D Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 09, 2007, 07:06:54 PM
ps there are no puppies in the class (my English Shepherd is the youngest - and the most obedient - at 7 months) - just lots of fluffy little white things that are mummys babies and I'm trying my best to educate them to dog psychology (and fighting a losing battle with some  ???) and helping them to have well mannered dogs. Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 09, 2007, 08:13:44 PM
mmm well - teaching dog psychology without knowing the basics is bound to be hard so if you want to start at the beginning pm me requesting stuff and i will send you classical and operant basics
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Jax on January 10, 2007, 06:39:38 AM
Just teaching them that dogs are not children and should not be treated as so is difficult enough when most people in the class are wealthy bored housewives!  ;) I'd be grateful for any info!  ;D Jax
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 10, 2007, 12:03:37 PM
info sent  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: justpetdogs on January 10, 2007, 12:55:02 PM
and... i am mentoring both gracie and donna....interesting the different questions and the different 'i am stuck' points  ;D quite fascinating really  :)

it's ok marion - guiding not telling  :)

No problem, Kiz...we encourage our students to widen their learning base by talking to, watching and working with other trainers...there's always something new to learn  ;D and a different perspective can suddenly turn the lightbulb on!
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on January 16, 2007, 11:19:21 AM
Well firstly I'd recommend a sanity test!  ;)

OBSERVATION, OBSERVATION, OBSERVATION!!!!!!

Watch every dog and situation you can. Go watch a sheep dog demonstration, agility, obedience and working trials. Watch other animals too. Study a flock of sheep, herd of cows or a bunch of birds and you will learn masses about animal behaviour in general.   

Train your own dog to do as many things as possible.....

Then Id recommend you find a great club, train there and then if you like the instruction and it works, ask if you can help out.

I have a full time dog training business and all of my current (8) instructors are ex customers who where good at training, have shown aptitude toward training people (becasue usually that is what it is all about) and have had the 'balls' to ask if they can help out. 'Balls' is important if you are to deal with loads of people. The personality is absolutly vital. 

As a result I have a fantastic team. We keep up to date on developing training techniques, we recommend books to one another and we recommend and attend other peoples courses.

No matter how much you ever know, there is someone who will know more. Seek them out and watch them, train with them, attend their courses, read their books or watch their videos.

I have taken learning from and can recommend the following, Mary Ray, Karen Pryor, John Rogerson, Peter Neville, Ian Dunbar, Thomas Longton, Barbara Sykes, Neil Short and others.
 
If you liove near Nottingham get in touch, you are welcome at our sessions. www.cadelac.co.uk

Good Luck,

Denise

 

 
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 16, 2007, 12:03:15 PM
hi and welcome  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on January 16, 2007, 12:34:45 PM
Hi, THanks for the welcome. Looks a very interesting and informative site. Im not too good as using it though! How come everyone has fancy pics and I dont. And how come I suddenly can't spel!  :)
Thanks again for the welcome
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on January 16, 2007, 01:05:27 PM
Ok. I've read a few more of the replies and this is for the attention of Kiz, can I call you kiz?

I totally agree with you on the subject of canine behaviour and psychology courses. I am currently operating in an area where a number of people have been on them. They are now working as bewhaviourists in this area and I too spend time picking up their pieces.

I have recently heard of A dog/owner agression case where the 'qualified' behaviourist had 'resolved' the problem over the phone in 10 minutes without meeting either dog or owner. The owner has since been bitten several times, and the dog has now been destroyed.

Anyone interested in dog training please hear these comments. You can only learn how to train a dog by being taught, by a dog! Dogs are always the best teachers. And the more dog teachers you have the better a trainer you will be. Animals have a language of their oiwn. If you listen and watch carfeully you can pick it up. Some people do so intuitively, but others can be taught.   

Courses can provide a lot of techinical jargon to use and also a lot of really useful information and case studies. But you have to get in there with the dogs to really find out where it's all at.

Watch dogs, walk dogs, train dogs, watch other people train their dogs, watch the good and the bad and spot the difference.

OBSERVATION! OBSERVATION! OBSERVATION!

 
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on January 16, 2007, 01:32:05 PM
 ;D yes you can call me kiz

Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on January 16, 2007, 03:43:46 PM
Hi and welcome enjoyed reading your post ;D I often sit and watch my dogs interacting and writing snippets down, teaches you loads thats why I think you need to have the hands on experience when trying to become a trainer or behaviourist rather than just a course with words and books ;D

ps agree with the personalitly bit and having balls too I need to grow some if I ever want to do anything about become a trainer :D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on January 16, 2007, 04:07:08 PM
 :)Balls.

Well Im managing without. Good job too, becasue my youngest dog keeps running off with mine and she left it in a muddy ditch - utterly inaccesible today. She was tired of chasing ball it seems.

Thanks for your comments

Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Gemsy on February 07, 2007, 10:00:10 AM
Looking for some advice: I run a pet-care business and am thinking of branching out into doing training classes, as there are none around here and would love to be able to train dogs (people!) I am going to go on a course provided by head office (it's a franchise - they organise the course so I'm not sure which one it's going to be) but the thing I'm a little worried about... ME. I'm too quiet! I'll happily run around a field with a pack of dogs being silly and generally making a fool of myself, but when it comes to talking to people I'm very shy, and all the trainers I've met in the past are generally confident, outgoing people. I understand that it's probably something that comes with experience of knowing what you're talking about, but I was wondering if anyone had any confidence tips?
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: kizkiznobite on February 07, 2007, 10:49:53 AM
what does the course involve - how long for etc and do you take your own dogs
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on February 07, 2007, 12:36:07 PM
HI, Im Denise and have a dog training business. We are currenly taining approximately 90 dogs per week. This usually rises to around 120 after Crufts. We have 7 instructors, allbut one,  ex-customers. So I hope that I can help you achieve your ambition.   

I find mostly that confidence when teaching, comes from a self belief that the knowledge you have is worthy of the effort it takes, to dispense it.

To train dogs (people) you have to have many people skills. It is the people that you teach primarily. Yes, you have to be able to spot relationship problems between dog and owners and you have to have an understanding of how dogs work and think and learn, but mostly it is about delivering your knowledge in an interesting and hopefully entertaining way, that keeps the attention of your audience. Your human audience.

To train a dog well you have to be able to deliver something knew, in a clear, concise and stimulating way that is understandable for that particular dog. With respect to its prior learning and its ability to learn. One dog may learn one activity easily, while a different dog finds the same task very difficult. 

It is exactly the same process with people. Except that in a class situation, you have to deal with all those learning abilities at once. And deal with the dogs or help the owners deal with the dogs, at the same time.   

Before becomming a dog trainer, I was very fortunate enough to go on the following non dog training courses via my previous proffesion. I find that all of these have helped me to some degree in my current role. Look to see if you can find anything similar, in addition to the course you are due to attend.

The psychology of learning (diffeent people learn in different ways. ie visually, auditorally, imaginatively, via understandable analogy)
Training the trainer (Teaching someone else, to teach someone else).
Meditaiton and self hypnosis techniques. Great for staying calm and knowing that no matter what may happen around you, you are still calm inside.  Easier said than done sometimes :)
Presentation skills (Several different courses)
Public speaking
Man Management skills. Motivation, stimulation, and building trust.
Crisis management. Usefull for when the shi* hits the fan  ;)
Crisis news media management. Usefull when really massive shi* hits massive fans. ;)
Self confidence and self control.
About twelve different dog taining courses, seminars etc., with various different dog proffesionals.

More than anything thoough,  you have to really believe in yourself and your aquired knowledge, whilst remaining open to aquisition of new skills, learning from others,  new techniques and progressive thinking.

My main advice would be to goto lots of other peoples dog training courses and try to get involved.

Some of my customersevolve into instructors, over a long period of time. First they show particular ability with their own dog, they show commitment to new learning, they show an aptitude for people communication, they show and express an interest in becoming an instructor.

Then they come to all of our classes and start to get involved and bit by bit, they start taking a part of a class thet they are confident with under suervision, then when they feel and I feel they are ready, they take a whole class. Then a whole course. This can take anything from 6 months to 18 months, in my experience.  They are encouraged to take on new learning and to introduce new methods where we are all satisfied that it is good. They also spend time with me and each other watching my and their classes to aquire new techniques and provide critiques to other instructors.

We regularly train, eat and walk our dogs together, so that we can talk about new ideas and air concerns or differing opinions.

In my view if a job is worth doing it is worth doing well. You will only be confident in your own ability once you are confident in your own ability if that makes sense. So start with your own dog, then someone elses class, then get involved.

And stay focussed on your intent., yes it is scarey and it is frought with self doubt, but everyone has doubt about their ability to do something, until they have actually done it!

I remember my very first class - I was sick and couldn't eat for days. Now I cant run a class without eating  ;D

Remember how you felt before you started your own business? Scared right? How do you feel now its up and running ? Less scared right......? Same with dog taining :)

Usefull non doggy Books.
Feal the fear and do it anyway, by someone whose name I can not remember. But it is very well read, try the spiritual, psychological or self development department of your bookshop. 
Confidence by Barbara De Angleis.
Any book by Barbara De Angelis.     

There are also a number of books about running dog training classes, mine are all out on loan right now so can't remeber the authors. 

Hope that helps.....
Good Luck
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: parker on February 07, 2007, 12:59:29 PM
but the thing I'm a little worried about... ME. I'm too quiet! I'll happily run around a field with a pack of dogs being silly and generally making a fool of myself, but when it comes to talking to people I'm very shy, and all the trainers I've met in the past are generally confident

Just like me :(  But I am sure the more you learn and participate with others on the course then your confidence will grow :)

off to read Denise's post :P
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on February 07, 2007, 01:22:22 PM
You will notice that I have been on several different courses. You will notice that none of them where related to the ability to spell,  or type. My apologies  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on February 07, 2007, 04:38:59 PM
Feel the fear and do it anyway - Susan Jeffries. I think. Excellent book  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Gemsy on February 08, 2007, 08:38:41 AM
what does the course involve - how long for etc and do you take your own dogs
Still don't really know yet, head office said they are "looking into it" :)
It's a long way off yet but I'm thinking ahead and worrying myself to death, as I'm currently terrible with people even on the phone, let alone face-to-face. But it is something I really want to do, as it would be a great new challenge and addition to my business!

Thank you Denise for your words of advice, they've helped a LOT. I will definitely be looking out for some of those books too!  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Gracie on February 24, 2007, 11:35:44 PM
gemsy

i hate talking on the phone even tho i work at a call centre, and im doing the bishop burton dog training course and im shy and very quiet too - and a few weeks ago i had to give a presentation in front of only about 9 poeple i wanted to die!! but i did it, and thinking about doing another one will be less intimidating
i just enrolled and was there before i knew it everyone is in the same boat no one knows anyone else, and a few people are outgoing and loud and a few are really shy and timid!

i would say go for it, it will build your confidence!! (ive only been doing mine since sept)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Gemsy on March 20, 2007, 07:43:52 PM
gemsy

i hate talking on the phone even tho i work at a call centre, and im doing the bishop burton dog training course and im shy and very quiet too - and a few weeks ago i had to give a presentation in front of only about 9 poeple i wanted to die!! but i did it, and thinking about doing another one will be less intimidating
i just enrolled and was there before i knew it everyone is in the same boat no one knows anyone else, and a few people are outgoing and loud and a few are really shy and timid!

i would say go for it, it will build your confidence!! (ive only been doing mine since sept)
Hehe, thanks very much! I'm sure I'm not the only quiet person in the world but I've felt that it's held me back so much in the past.. so I'm not going to let it stop me this time. :D
Lots of studying to do first though. I have no idea how I'm going to get the experience.. I only know of one training "school" round here, but I'm not sure I like their methods.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Michelle.l on March 27, 2007, 07:54:31 AM
Hehe, thanks very much! I'm sure I'm not the only quiet person in the world but I've felt that it's held me back so much in the past[/quote]

I am a quiet person too but I just asked at where I train my two if they needed any help last september time, since then I have been helping out every Turesday night and I still train my two on a Wednesday and with the help of Denise I am slowly starting to get my confiedence  ;)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: denisemcleod on March 27, 2007, 08:38:37 AM
Michelle you are already a very good dog trainer with your own dogs. You are a very nice person. You can overcome your quietness.

Michelle has been taking parsts of my classes already. And is doing very well.

Gemsy, Have you seen my post on dog training-training as it where? Am looking at running a course to introduce people to all aspects of runnign dog training classes. There is more to it than teaching people to teach dogs. Let us know if you are interested in the course. Denise
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: bordercollies on July 23, 2008, 12:18:19 PM
Hi i'm new to this site, i really would love to become a dog trainer and all your information has been very helpful. But i think i am going to find different clubs to attend. I do have a lot of experience i have 3 border collies of my own and i compete in obedience with them all, i also do attend a dog training club i've been there for about 6 years but thats the only one i've ever been to. I also work in a rescue centre so i've had alot of experience with troubled dogs, i'm just finding it difficult to find local dog training clubs in birmingham. Can anyone help?
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: GSPmad on July 23, 2008, 12:26:18 PM
try looking in regional pet services at the top of the board - there are lists of training clubs by area. can't help with personal recommendation as don't live near there, sorry.  :)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Relay on July 23, 2008, 12:34:05 PM
I found the Kennel Club really helpful when i was looking for training clubs in my area for Cass, but even more helpful (surprisingly) was the dog warden/animal welfare officer at out local council office, they had lists of all the training clubs and had visited many of them to check out the clubs for themselves - they told me about clubs i didn't even know about in my area.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Sweetypye on July 23, 2008, 01:20:04 PM
Have you looked here?

http://www.apdt.co.uk/trainers_area.asp?area=West%20Midlands
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Kerry_and_Beau on July 23, 2008, 06:02:13 PM
hi and welcome & good luck  ;D
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: rooooooooby on July 23, 2008, 06:15:04 PM
Quote
Feel the fear and do it anyway - Susan Jeffries. I think. Excellent book  Smiley

this is also available on CD and is absolutely BRILLIANT - i promise you wont be disappointed !!!

i am really shy and quiet too and worry constantly if people like me or not, i'm very insecure and not very confident.  before i met bev - i was so unconfident that i didnt even give cues to my own dog - in private !!

claire x
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Nakisha on December 14, 2008, 05:18:44 PM
I'm afraid I haven't read this whole thread, so please excuse me if I'm saying things that have already been said. :)  :-[

I found that reading books of different trainers is very helpful to educate yourself. You can read what they have to say, discover all their different idea's. AND grab some books about wolves! Their behaviour is very interesting and lots of it are seen between our dogs too. But remember; there are differences...

I saw Fisher already mentioned here. I recommend him a lot! Also; try Stanely Coren! It's very interesting as well.
I recommend reading the books of Jan Fennell most of all. I found her idea's very intriguing.

The advantage of reading books of different trainers, is that you'll get familiar with many different thoughts and idea's. It's the challenge to form your own opinion after reading it all... What method felt good? What methods DIDN't you approve of? And why?
Try a method that appeals to you and feels good, but if you do, really go for it and don't stop halfway. Does it work? How does the dog respond, and is that the way you had thought it would respond?
Does the method work, or does it fail? Can you say why?

Becoming an experienced trainer will mean practise. And of course, sometimes, you WILL fail. It's all part of the learning curve... and even though it's hard... it's the only way.

If you manage to get your hands on an old book on dog training, you'll find it to be completely different from the latest insights. Things changed a lot in quite a short period of time. About fifty years ago, dogtraining was based on a pat on the head if the dog was good, and a kick under his tail if he was bad. (Forgive my very blunt expressing...)
We have learned so much more about dogs now, and there are still lots of things to learn!!

Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: Mudgie on January 12, 2009, 10:20:22 PM
Going to disagree with some of your stuff here.  John Fisher is top - totally agree but unless you are looking at evolution and the differences between wolves and dogs I would steer clear of wolf stuff.  Dogs are not wolves and should not be treated as a wolf  - we evolved from apes but we dont go swinging about trees and I would like to think we have came on significantly from there  :yes: 

There was a significant increase in the training books in the 1980s and 1990s blaming behavioural problems on a dog’s dominant nature.   Many of the training methods used in these books are borne of comparisons between captive wolves and the behaviour of domestic dogs.   If you want to encourage the misconception that dogs should be treated as wolves then why stop at Jan Fennell - intriguing is not a word I would use, go with Ceasar Milans stuff or watch Dog Borstal - that way you can totally mess up your own head along with your dogs.     

Just my opinion but based scientific facts - not everything you read in books, intriguing or entertaining as it may be, is fact.
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: phila67 on March 05, 2010, 10:20:56 PM
If you can find one near you, BAGSD (British Association Of German Shepherd Dogs) run training clubs throughout the country. You also get the opportunity to go on to train as a handler through the BAGSD.

As you have probably guessed its just Shepherds.
You can find your nearest club here: http://www.bagsd.net/BAGSD%20Branch.html (http://www.bagsd.net/BAGSD%20Branch.html)
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: bowls on April 06, 2011, 04:30:57 PM
Four years ago I set up training classes for obedience lessons. Initially I started by training my own dogs to GCDS gold level and assisting in puppy training at a dog club in my area - after 2 years of assisting  I opened a training club which now offers Obedience, flyball, agility, tracking and many other types of training. We also offer all levels of the Kennel club GCDS. When I have been on courses I have met other would be trainers, unfortunately they have not been in close proximity to where I live otherwise it would be possible to help out in our club. So my advice would be help out in a reputable club in your area and go on from there. Hope that helps
Title: Re: How to become a dog trainer
Post by: waller540 on November 09, 2011, 01:08:20 PM
I don't think its something just anyone can learn. I think you need a natural flare with dogs and lots and lots of experience. Then, take a course.