Small regression in toilet training

We have a command for wee wees but not for poo – if you could go back to basics and get a no 2 command in there too, that’d be amazing (and if you do, let me know how long it took to get through – as you only get a couple of opportunities a day to do the training!)

In the meantime tho, if he’s preoccupied about your other dogs, would it help to allow him out for a little while either side of the other dogs coming out, so he can have chance to think about himself and whether he does need to go?

Is there an area that he prefers going on?  Thinking back to prior to his current issues, did he have any sort of regime with his toilet?  Perhaps you can attempt to replicate the optimal pooing conditions, and then, even if you haven’t got it cued, give tons of praise and big big play for going at all (outside obviously!!), so he begins to associate it with something more rewarding than marking Dante’s emissions!

Another plan would be to bring him in, with the other dogs, and then keep him in view until the post-walk excitement has gone down.  Presumably this would be when he’d start thinking “crap, I forgot to go, and I can feel something brewing!”.  If you keep him in view he either won’t do it, or you’ll spot him looking around for somewhere to go.  Either way, don’t leave it long, and then take him out on his own to do his business, getting the chance for big big praise when he does.

hi,

unusual as a rule but sounds like hormone – related issues …

is he usually allowed on the sofa, is dante ?

was he shut in the kitchen when he pood in there

is the kitchen the nearest place he can get to the back door

is he marking over dante with poo or wee ?

claire x

Was he loose?
Have you changed his food or the time of his meals?

Like Claire said he could be just feeling his Hormones ::)
Never had this problem, I would keep a careful eye on him and if he goes to do anything put him out. Reinforce the toilet training.

he’s definately scenting his smell and removing dantes – you may find he challenges dante in the coming weeks – would dante handle this ok if not you might want to think about leaving them apart when you are not in room – with 2 boys i doubt it would be more than noise but you need to make sure you are re-inforcing the right dog as top etc …

am sure izzie could help here with this …?  i know my own dogs and can ‘see’ in other dogs but not “in text” sorry 😀

claire x

Crate = brilliant.

That’s a great place to start.  Does sound like his hormones are getting the better of him and he’s simply getting too excited about that to think about going outside.

Dogs see their crates as their dens, and it is exceptionally rare that they will soil them.  It seems like he has gone very quickly back to soiling in your house – well done for catching him.  In the meantime, as much hassle as it will be, I’d recommend crating him while you aren’t watching him.  Even if you nip up to the loo, just put him in so he can’t start pooing while you aren’t there.

Although this will be a right pain, it will essentially prevent him from doing the naughty deed unless you’re there watching, and that way you can quickly chuck him out when he starts circling.  If he does drop one inside, obviously no praise when he finishes the job outside, but if you see him circling/sniffing indoors, and get him out before he has started going, give HUGE praise when he goes. 

You need to reinforce that pooing outside is fabulous, as opposed to pooing inside being terrible.  Obviously refrain from telling him off when he has done it inside, correction, yes, but no punishment as this will simply encourage him to go when you aren’t there, or go where you can’t see it (behind sofa etc).

Good luck!

i’d say this is undoubtedly hormone issues and he wont soil the crate IF dante hasnt been in there – otherwise he may well as scenting drive could be stronger than den clean one in a teenager for sure.

jus is right – manage in house by crating when u go out of sight and clean up really well scrub with a proper ‘clean up’ product every time or he’ll over scent his fading scents and you’ll have a monster of a problem 😉

he isnt stubborn his drives are telling him to hold it until he can over scent – i think you have a challenge coming – ESPECIALLY with the neutered / entire situation – whatever you do DO NOT neuter him yet.  you’ll make your life hell x x

claire x