dog and bitch together

As far as I recall, you can also give the bitch an abortive injection in the few days after she has been “caught” – bit like the morning after pill.  But these are expensive, and clearly it’s better to prevent the incident in the first place…

And that’s where my knowledge ends.  But, no, it isn’t just a choice between spaying and puppies.  Altho if the pregnancy has progressed, then it may be down to that.

Bev, how do you deal with blind seasons etc with Cubert and Ami?

We have 2 entire dogs and 5 bitches – only 2 of the bitches are also un spayed.

We’ve never had any problems keeping them seperate from each other and I wouldn’t dream of sending my boy or my mums boy anywhere else for 3 weeks while the bitch was in season.

The only inconvenience if you can call it that, is that my mum’s male GSD sings at the top of his voice for a few days.  My male Rottie still hasn’t got a clue and doesn’t really bother the girls when they are in season – he sniffs them, I tell him to leave and he does.

You just have to be vigilent and keep them apart and not let any incidents occur.

Have to reply to this the injections you are talking about are extemely bad for bitches they can lead on to a pyro in fact most bitches I know that have had these injections for holidays etc have ended up being spayed.
As for keeping entire dogs and bitches I am not a fan it puts the dog under a lot of stress some have been know to starve themselves for the whole time the bitch is in season, some can become extremely vocal, have known owners that have had to have lads deballed to keep the neighbours happy.
Val

hi,

it would depend on situation and breed to some extent for me.

as you already have a boy i would be inclined to chop him and then wait however long your supposed to wait (cant remember sorry) then get the bitch puppy and keep her entire.

reasons – bitch op is more complex and can lead to annoying side effects like dribbling wee, these side effects are more likely the younger you spey which means hanging about till past season 1 atleast which could be anywhere between about 6 and 18 months from what i’ve personally known about thats a long time to be constantly looking at your dogs bum !!

also – i would do your boy in preference to say a female rough, sheltie, beardie (there are more) because of the coat changes with speying will really affect look and manageability (val will know more).

claire x

The male every time it’s a much easier operation for a male than a female plus like Claire has said girls get the waterwork problems and if you just read this board you can see on a small number of bitches how many have had to be treated for it
Val

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As for keeping entire dogs and bitches I am not a fan it puts the dog under a lot of stress some have been know to starve themselves for the whole time the bitch is in season, some can become extremely vocal, have known owners that have had to have lads deballed to keep the neighbours happy.
Val
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Out of interest – would you say was better to neuter the dog or spay the bitch – in this situation? We plan on getting a bitch puppy – but am interested in which one should stay entire?
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The male every time it’s a much easier operation for a male than a female plus like Claire has said girls get the waterwork problems and if you just read this board you can see on a small number of bitches how many have had to be treated for it
Val
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That’s interesting because I thought that we would get the bitch spayed for these reasons:
1) There seem to be more health benefits to spaying a bitch than neutering a dog (although obviously would be better to do neither)
2) We would cope better with an entire dog and spayed bitch given the huge number of entire males in our area
3) can’t imagine getting Loki neutered  :'(

I do realise the surgery is much greater for the bitch… but both ops carry the risk of the GA… Plus other advise I have had (from someone on this board) in the past recommended getting the bitch done  ???

Claire it will be a black lab  🙂

I would always go with getting the bitch spayed if you have no intention on breeding or showing.  Yes it is a bigger op but then you cut out any risk of get pyometra.  We had a bitch once with this and she was lucky to survive.  I also know of 3 other people who have not had their bitches spayed for them to go on and get pyo all were over the age of 10 and I don’t think all survived surgery because of their ages.