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  • #81374
    GSPmad
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    well….

    the specialist suspected dorain had 2 different problems, one causing front leg lameness and one causing back leg lameness. he thought it was all spinal, so dorain had an mri of his spine. the good news was that the specialist was wondering about a possible wobblers lesion at the base of his neck – and his spine there was fine. the bad news…  he has three bulging discs in the lumbar region of his back – which the specialist isn’t too worried about, he said, to be expected in a middle aged dog (can’t call him middle aged  :'( :'( :'( :'( ), but where his spondylosis is there is also disc material protruding – on both sides – which is almost completely blocking the nerve exits in that area (lumbosacral) from the spinal cord and pressing on the nerves – hence the pain, limping and scuffing claws. and there is not much that can be done. there are three surgical techniques – one involves going in from the top and taking disc material out from the top – but the problem isn’t at the top it’s at the sides. another involves removing part of pelvis to get at sides and take disc material out, then repairing pelvis with pins etc – very bi op, and not very good outlook, as often destabilises again. the third i can’t remember the name of has only been done on 10 dogs ever and is therefore experimental – and dorain aint experimental. on that basis i don’t want surgery – and the specialist doesn’t recommend syrgery either – he’s very straight up – but it is not going to get better.  :'( his pain hasn’t responded to any sort of treatment so far – the specialist has said PLT and tramadol. plan is just to try the tramadol first and see as i don’t want anything steroidy unless i have to. anythign sort of herbally that might help?  :-\

    he said it is relatively common in pointers and seems to be froma mechanical instability. i just keep remembering all his knocks – like the two times the pratt decided to try and jump a cattle grid instead of coming through the gate, and the time he tried to run up a 20 foot vertical bank and fell at the top and landed on his right hip on a rock – he was on 3 legs then and i thought he had broken something…. and just hoping they didn’t have anything to do with it and battering myself round the head metaphorically speaking for letting it happrn….  :'( :'(

    and front legs he isn’t sure. since there was nothing on xray or mri he did joint taps – he said there was a higher volume of joint fluid with a lower viscosity than he would expect in both elbows and both carpi – and said itcould be soft tissue or degenerative, but either way there probably wasn’t much point doing much as his back end was the bigger problem… and to see if it responded to the meds for that… h’s sending the joint fluid to the lab so need to wait for results of that….  :'(

    and the beastie got very growly when he was baing examined – vet said ‘do e need to muzzle him?’ i said no… collar in one hand nose in other you aint going anywhere…. think he is getting utterly fed up of being prodded and poked. and he is very peed off now, though he was slightly mollified by getting cod and potatos cooked for his dinner…..


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    #81375
    *Lassie*
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    Poor boy :-*
    Don’t blame yourself, you can’t wrap dogs up in cotton wool. Dogs are happier being dogs even if they do do some daft things.
    Remember we are all here for you if you are feeling down and upset (((hugs))) to you both

    #81376

    No dont blame yourself these things happen. Im just so so sorry it wasnt better knews for you  :-*

    #81377
    *Nat*
    Member

    Oh sorry it’s not better news – I hope you can get him more comfortable with medication and/or supplements, poor lad  :'(  :-*  :-*

    {{{hugs}}}  :-*

    #81378
    Anonymous
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    This post has only just popped up here I am so sorry I missed the good wishes and nearly missed the whole post.
    You cannot wrap dogs up Eshia is paying the price for bad judgment as well I retired her from working the cows at Durlston two years ago as she has a disc problem right between her shoulder blades, dogs will be dogs.
    Even the operation for a disc on the top of the spine is not to be taken lightly seen that one done.
    I wish the lad well
    Val

    #81379
    GSPmad
    Member

    thank you – but i just feel like i could and should have done more….  🙁

    and while i was waiting to pick dorain up there was a flat coat came in off his back legs – he was obviously in pain – not howling or anything but just quiet crying -and when they wheeled him in on a trolley his face – i know that look with duibh – i don’t understand what’s going on and i am in pain but i am a flat coat so i will put up with it all – and he wagged his tail at them when they were getting him out of the car bless – i was nearly intears, just wanted to go up and hug him… need to pull myself together.  ::)

    #81380
    Anonymous
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    They are such a lovely breed but so many problems my old vet had then and loved them but they even got to him in the end, they do suffer terrible form bones and cancer.
    Lets hope he recovers enough to be pain free
    Val

    #81381
    xtine
    Member

    sorry it wasn’t better news  :'( take good care of each other  :-*

    #81382
    GSPmad
    Member

    i know i’ve not got results re front legs yet, but re back end… is there anything else i can try… herbal, homeopathic….

    #81383
    Anonymous
    Guest

    There are al lot but IMO you need to see a homeopathic vet to work on the right remedies
    Here’s a few
    Apis – Urticarial swellings, oedema and fluid in joints will often respond to this remedy
    Rhus tox. – This suits most cases of rheumatism and arthritis, that are worse for first movement but limber up.
    Ruta – Ligaments, tendons and other fibrous tissues are the main areas of benefit of this remedy
    Symphytum – Symphytum treats bone injuries of any type, speeding healing. In cases of bone fracture, Symphytum will speed healing and stimulate a better repair. Non-union fractures will also generally respond.

    [quote author=GSPmad link=topic=11624.msg220159#msg220159 date=1212442079]
    i know i’ve not got results re front legs yet, but re back end… is there anything else i can try… herbal, homeopathic….
    [/quote]

    #81384
    GSPmad
    Member

    thanks – will have a look.

    #81385
    Anonymous
    Guest

    So sorry to read this  :'( :-*

    have some hugs (((((((((()))))))))))

    #81386

    i am so sorry the news was not better, hope you can find a good mix of herbal remedies etc to help ease his discomfort, thinking of you ((hugs))

    #81387
    *Nick*
    Member

    hang in there terry, bloody gunners , I swear if they don’t hurt themselves on a daily basis they feel they might as well not bothered getting up at all  ::) 😉
    I’ll bet that a homeopath can find some good stuff for Dorain  🙂

    #81388
    GSPmad
    Member

    thanks everyone  :-* :'(

    [quote author=Val link=topic=11624.msg220170#msg220170 date=1212443072]
    There are al lot but IMO you need to see a homeopathic vet to work on the right remedies
    Here’s a few
    Apis – Urticarial swellings, oedema and fluid in joints will often respond to this remedy
    Rhus tox. – This suits most cases of rheumatism and arthritis, that are worse for first movement but limber up.
    Ruta – Ligaments, tendons and other fibrous tissues are the main areas of benefit of this remedy
    Symphytum – Symphytum treats bone injuries of any type, speeding healing. In cases of bone fracture, Symphytum will speed healing and stimulate a better repair. Non-union fractures will also generally respond.

    [quote author=GSPmad link=topic=11624.msg220159#msg220159 date=1212442079]
    i know i’ve not got results re front legs yet, but re back end… is there anything else i can try… herbal, homeopathic….
    [/quote]
    [/quote]

    ok, i had looked at a book i got about natural remedies – and had written down rhus tox 6/12/30c
    bellis perennis 30c or > hypericum 12-30c sulphur 6/12/30c ?aconite/gelsemium 30c.

    does any of that make any sense or sound right – the rhus tox is down in what you said too – but what strength or potency or whatchamacallit would i need them in – the ones you have mentioned, and the ones i have mnetioned if they seem right – and can i give them all at once?  ???

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