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  • #61530
    labattsbaby
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    Well my boy is nearly 4 months and what a doll he has turned out to be. I absolutely love the little stinker and he is so intelligent, and he knows I am the pack leader  >:D.

    I had him checked several times with the vet over the past three weeks. Last week I had a complete check done, blood, stool, xray, physical and he is as sound as a horse, and in tip top form. Only problem is is a picky eater who is spoilt >:D

    He eats IF it pleases him and not anytime sooner, this nonsense about him dying if he misses a meal is corn ball according to the breeder. This guy is bursting with energy, he wears me out. I got him at 750gm and now he is 1358gm so he aint getting smaller. His coat is gorgeous and shiney.

    Vet recommended I cook for him, vet recommended I put food, if he wont eat, he will in 48 hours or drop dead, it does not take 48 hours for him to eat maybe 8. Vet also has a Pomeranian and knows their control habits of wanting to be babied >:(. I did this for a week and he ate on and off. He seems not not like the scheduled eating times that have been laid out for him, but will eat at his will when he feels up to it, sometimes at 10pm which I dont like but if he misses two meals in the day I let him. DONT KNOW if this is good or bad as it also throws off his bowel elimation  :-\.   He drinks sufficient water but I also syringe him some according to vet recommendation when he is playing hard and wont drink, only 2ml syringe tho, according to what the vet told me.

    I feed him cooked, beef, fish, chicken, pork with carrots, barley, pasta whole grain and potatoes, peas and green beans IF he is in the mood, I also do barf and kibbles, apples as a snack, yogurt as a snack, cottage cheese if he will eat it as a mid day meal, eggs for bfast usually with kibbles or cottage cheese. He gets a multi vitamin in liquid form and also nutri cal as a snack as recommended by the vet.

    The vet I took him to is  a specialist on dogs and it cost me nearly 300 euros to have him completely checked out. It was worth my sanity.  Oh, he is perfect, no patella, no tracea collapse, two testies, excellent bite and a tiny fontenela the size of half an eraser top which vet said will close in some months.

    He has never pooped in the house, he pees now and then, but poop he runs out to the patio where I laid out an area for him with cat litter. Now the PROBLEM is this, I take him out 4 times a day and he wont poop outside, he will pee, but not poop. Soon as I come back in after sometime, usually one hour of walking him he goes straight to the balcony. how do I unbreak this bad habit?

    Thank god he does not chew anything in my house but his toys and bones and rawhide stuff. He already knows to fetch and bring back to me, he knows sit, he knows sleep time, he allowes me to brush him daily, he does not like toothpaste all that much but oh well ;D.

    Here are two pics I took one last week, one yesterday, apple is from yesterday

    this is last week

    [img width=468 height=350]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/fussahvex/P1010003.jpg[/img]

    This is yesterday

    [img width=468 height=350]http://i25.photobucket.com/albums/c89/fussahvex/P1010077.jpg[/img]

    #66087

    I must say, he is a cutie & I’m normally not a fan of small dogs (certain Divas & Pekes excluded  :-*)

    Dogs do not eat everyday in the wild & he is unlikely to willingly “starve” himself because he is not being fed the way he wants.

    Jake gets his breakfast at 8 A.M and his main meal at 6 P.M, the food is left down for 10/20 minutes & if he doesn’t eat it then it gets picked back up and he doesn’t get it, end of story.
    You are pack manager and the pack managers dictate when the pack members do and do not eat.

    I also find it strange that you have to syringe him to get him to drink  :-\ I’m assuming he doesn’t want to drink because he is not thirsty so why force him to drink? He’ll be getting sufficient moisture from his food so he is not likely to suddenly dehydrate because he’s not drinking his water all the time. I could be wrong on this though..

    I think all this messing with his food schedules and water could be the reason why is bowels are all “off” if he’s been checked and there’s no medical reason for it. Are you following a breed specific diet sheet for him?

    #66088
    Anonymous
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    You shouldnt need to clean his teeth, you seem to be feeding good food stuffs, get him a couple of bones and let him chew them, they will keep his teeth clean. Do you take his food away after 10 mins if he doesnt eat it , if not try that, then put more down next meal time, give 10 mins if not eaten remove and so on, he will eat eventually and def wont starve to death ::) Is him pooing on the balcony a big problem for you? I know you dont have a garden so maybe this is better for you, bag it & bin it straight away.
    my friends dog will not poo anywhere else but his own garden.

    He looks very cute and cuddly :-*

    #66089
    labattsbaby
    Member

    [quote author=.colliecrazy. link=topic=9146.msg165515#msg165515 date=1187702815]
    I must say, he is a cutie & I’m normally not a fan of small dogs (certain Divas & Pekes excluded  :-*)

    Dogs do not eat everyday in the wild & he is unlikely to willingly “starve” himself because he is not being fed the way he wants.

    Jake gets his breakfast at 8 A.M and his main meal at 6 P.M, the food is left down for 10/20 minutes & if he doesn’t eat it then it gets picked back up and he doesn’t get it, end of story.
    You are pack manager and the pack managers dictate when the pack members do and do not eat.

    I also find it strange that you have to syringe him to get him to drink  :-\ I’m assuming he doesn’t want to drink because he is not thirsty so why force him to drink? He’ll be getting sufficient moisture from his food so he is not likely to suddenly dehydrate because he’s not drinking his water all the time. I could be wrong on this though..

    I think all this messing with his food schedules and water could be the reason why is bowels are all “off” if he’s been checked and there’s no medical reason for it. Are you following a breed specific diet sheet for him?
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    No, I only syringe water him if we are out and he is sweating with his tongue hanging to the floor lol. I should have said that. Normally he drinks, not a lot but he drinks.  I follow breed diet BUT the breed diet is what he turns his silly nose up at. he has been a problem eater from the first day, and it seems he will be so for the rest of his life.

    He gets his food, if he wont eat it TUFF luck. some weeks before I was spoon feeding becuase the breeder said he will DIE if he misses two meals. LOL he never showed signs of being starved. When he is hungry, he eats up a storm, but usually only once a day will he eat a big serving of anything. he hates all dog foods. So I have to get him back on his food, but this is what he will not eat. Oh well. He is just spoilt silly and it is all my fault >:D

    #66090
    labattsbaby
    Member

    [quote author=jaydex link=topic=9146.msg165516#msg165516 date=1187702883]
    You shouldnt need to clean his teeth, you seem to be feeding good food stuffs, get him a couple of bones and let him chew them, they will keep his teeth clean. Do you take his food away after 10 mins if he doesnt eat it , if not try that, then put more down next meal time, give 10 mins if not eaten remove and so on, he will eat eventually and def wont starve to death ::) Is him pooing on the balcony a big problem for you? I know you dont have a garden so maybe this is better for you, bag it & bin it straight away.
    my friends dog will not poo anywhere else but his own garden.

    He looks very cute and cuddly :-*
    [/quote]

    No, the pooing on the balcony is not a big problem as it is a small area and I sanitize it daily. The problem is he wont pee there, becuase at first he was doing it, then I started to close the door when I took him out to pee now he cries to come back in and then PEES on the floor LOL.

    I want him to pee and poop outside in the street and nearby park unless the weather is so horrible I cant get him out, like during torrential rains and winter storms. But if he continues to only poo on the balcony he will never be broken to do it outside including parks etc p:-)

    So what I am asking is how to I unbreak his bancony habit :-\

    #66091

    Haha sorry my bad  ::) Not on the ball at all today.

    I’m sure we’ve all spoiled our dogs rotten on various snippets of advice from vets etc before, don’t feel too bad about it  :-* we’ve all been there!

    As for the balcony thing.. Does he give you signs etc when he wants to go to the toilet? Like cry at the balcony doors or something?

    #66092
    labattsbaby
    Member

    [quote author=.colliecrazy. link=topic=9146.msg165525#msg165525 date=1187705407]
    Haha sorry my bad  ::) Not on the ball at all today.

    I’m sure we’ve all spoiled our dogs rotten on various snippets of advice from vets etc before, don’t feel too bad about it  :-* we’ve all been there!

    As for the balcony thing.. Does he give you signs etc when he wants to go to the toilet? Like cry at the balcony doors or something?
    [/quote]

    He GOES out int he balcony alone by himself when he wants to go, I never have to take him. He will be playing ont he other end of the flat and all of a sudden I hear the little tinkle bell tinkling away and off he goes to the balcony so he does it alone. If I put paper near the balcony door he will pee there, but not always as he found my rug much more plush >:(, but poo, always runs out, if the door is closed which it is sometimes, he just sits and waits for me to open it

    #66093
    labattsbaby
    Member

    [quote author=jaydex link=topic=9146.msg165516#msg165516 date=1187702883]
    You shouldnt need to clean his teeth, you seem to be feeding good food stuffs, get him a couple of bones and let him chew them, they will keep his teeth clean. Do you take his food away after 10 mins if he doesnt eat it , if not try that, then put more down next meal time, give 10 mins if not eaten remove and so on, he will eat eventually and def wont starve to death ::) Is him pooing on the balcony a big problem for you? I know you dont have a garden so maybe this is better for you, bag it & bin it straight away.
    my friends dog will not poo anywhere else but his own garden.

    He looks very cute and cuddly :-*
    [/quote]

    Yes, I was giving him raw frozen marrow bones which he literally went nuts for but I stopped a week now to bring his constipation back to normal. His Anal glands got clogged fromt he soft food he was eating before I took him for the overhaul at the vet, they were drained and vet recommended home cook for two weeks. This is week two. Dont know if I will continue it totally as I feel what I am giving him is not sufficient nutrients I think, but may be wrong :-\

    #66094

    [quote author=labattsbaby link=topic=9146.msg165529#msg165529 date=1187705737]
    [quote author=.colliecrazy. link=topic=9146.msg165525#msg165525 date=1187705407]
    Haha sorry my bad  ::) Not on the ball at all today.

    I’m sure we’ve all spoiled our dogs rotten on various snippets of advice from vets etc before, don’t feel too bad about it  :-* we’ve all been there!

    As for the balcony thing.. Does he give you signs etc when he wants to go to the toilet? Like cry at the balcony doors or something?
    [/quote]

    He GOES out int he balcony alone by himself when he wants to go, I never have to take him. He will be playing ont he other end of the flat and all of a sudden I hear the little tinkle bell tinkling away and off he goes to the balcony so he does it alone. If I put paper near the balcony door he will pee there, but not always as he found my rug much more plush >:(, but poo, always runs out, if the door is closed which it is sometimes, he just sits and waits for me to open it
    [/quote]

    Watch for signals that he wants to go out and then try to get him outside in time or take him out every 20 minutes or so and when he does have a poo/pee praise him and treat him as he’s doing so.

    #66095
    labattsbaby
    Member

    [quote author=.colliecrazy. link=topic=9146.msg165536#msg165536 date=1187706355]
    [quote author=labattsbaby link=topic=9146.msg165529#msg165529 date=1187705737]
    [quote author=.colliecrazy. link=topic=9146.msg165525#msg165525 date=1187705407]
    Haha sorry my bad  ::) Not on the ball at all today.

    I’m sure we’ve all spoiled our dogs rotten on various snippets of advice from vets etc before, don’t feel too bad about it  :-* we’ve all been there!

    As for the balcony thing.. Does he give you signs etc when he wants to go to the toilet? Like cry at the balcony doors or something?
    [/quote]

    He GOES out int he balcony alone by himself when he wants to go, I never have to take him. He will be playing ont he other end of the flat and all of a sudden I hear the little tinkle bell tinkling away and off he goes to the balcony so he does it alone. If I put paper near the balcony door he will pee there, but not always as he found my rug much more plush >:(, but poo, always runs out, if the door is closed which it is sometimes, he just sits and waits for me to open it
    [/quote]

    Watch for signals that he wants to go out and then try to get him outside in time or take him out every 20 minutes or so and when he does have a poo/pee praise him and treat him as he’s doing so.
    [/quote]

    LOL take him out every 20 minutes? He pees on average every two waking hours, and since he sleeps like 3 to 4 hour intervals I take him out upon rising, or after a long hard play or eating. But since he is giving so much trouble to eat I usually take him to the park nearby and run him good, but even then he wont poo or pee. he does not seem to pee that much. At first he was doing it like every 30 mins now I timed every couple waking hours. Poo is about two times to three max a day >:D

    #66096
    *Nat*
    Member

    What do you say when he goes wee/poo on the balcony? You need to cue it so when you are out you can cue him to go  🙂 Like “go wee” and “go poo”  🙂

    #66097
    Anonymous
    Guest

    [quote author=Balmy Bali link=topic=9146.msg165633#msg165633 date=1187771846]
    What do you say when he goes wee/poo on the balcony? You need to cue it so when you are out you can cue him to go  🙂 Like “go wee” and “go poo”  🙂
    [/quote]

    I reckon ‘go poop’ or ‘go pee pee’ is more American  🙂

    but then the words don’t matter do they – just the fact that you have a cue  ;D

    labattsbaby – i agree with Balmy – this is what I do with my puppy (he 9 months old now tho  😮 ) and he will go on command.

    #66098
    *Nat*
    Member

    Lol Widget – I was gving an example  ;D They are the ones I use  😀

    #66099
    Anonymous
    Guest

    [quote author=Balmy Bali link=topic=9146.msg165636#msg165636 date=1187772101]
    Lol Widget – I was gving an example  ;D They are the ones I use  😀
    [/quote]

    I know i was just being silly  😀

    #66100
    *Nat*
    Member

    😀 ;D

    By the way Labattsbaby – your pup is a little cutie  :-*

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